MSI will switch to AMD chips for its high-end Claw handheld PC if the rumour mill is to be believed

The MSI Claw 8 AI+ held in the hand, playing Dead Cells on the 8-inch screen.
(Image credit: Future)

All of us in the hardware team at PC Gamer love a good handheld gaming PC, be it a Valve Steam Deck, Asus ROG Ally X, or an MSI Claw 8 AI. Whether you want long-life portable playability or outright performance, there's something for everyone in the market. Nearly all of them use an AMD processor, but the Claw 8 AI stands out for using an Intel Lunar Lake chip. But if rumours are to be believed, its next iteration will join the crowd and sport an AMD Z2 Extreme.

While this news has just popped up via Igor's Lab, the first suggestion of this happening appeared back in January, from X user CodeCommando. The current version of MSI's Claw 8 AI+ handheld sports an Intel Core Ultra 7 258V processor—better known by its architecture name, Lunar Lake, this is an eight-core, eight-thread chip with a Battlemage integrated GPU.

It's one of the best little laptop/handheld chips we've seen in a long time and it gives the MSI Claw 8 AI+ plenty of punch for gaming, easily beating the Asus ROG Ally X. It's not the best gaming handheld PC you can buy, though, partly because it's so darn big but mostly because it's pretty expensive. At $900, the Claw 8 is a fair bit pricier than the Ally X and way more than the Steam Deck.

Most of that is down to the Intel Lunar Lake processor, as it sports on-package RAM chips. Most laptops and handheld manufacturers source the cheapest possible memory modules to improve the profit margin but that's not possible with the Core Ultra 200V range. And it's possibly why MSI is considering switching to an AMD processor for the next version of the Claw.

Specifically, it's being claimed that MSI will use the forthcoming Ryzen Z2 Extreme APU. AMD announced this chip at this year's CES event in January and this might be the original source of the claim that MSI will use it. We've not seen one in the flesh just yet, but like the original Ryzen Z1 Extreme, it has eight cores, 16 threads, and a boost clock of 5.0 GHz. Handling graphics are 16 RDNA 3.5 compute units, 33% more than in the Z1.

Intel's Lunar Lake Lion Cove cores without Hyper-Threading

Lunar Lake's on-package RAM chips make it somewhat pricey for system builders. (Image credit: Intel)

That will probably give it the edge over the Lunar Lake chip in the current Claw 8 but not by a huge margin, as the Z2 Extreme will still be limited to 35 W. Not that it really matters as the main reason why MSI would want to change the processor is to earn more money from each unit it sells, even accounting for the fact that it will need to completely redesign the motherboard and cooling system.

Naturally, we'd just prefer to have a cheaper Claw 8 but I suspect MSI will want to stick to the same price point, as it already markets its handheld as being a high-end model. Obviously, we'll just have to wait and see what MSI eventually releases but I'll be a little sad to see Lunar Lake disappear. It's a brilliant little chip, with far more poke than you'd think but it's also a bit too expensive for the market it's intended for.

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Nick Evanson
Hardware Writer

Nick, gaming, and computers all first met in 1981, with the love affair starting on a Sinclair ZX81 in kit form and a book on ZX Basic. He ended up becoming a physics and IT teacher, but by the late 1990s decided it was time to cut his teeth writing for a long defunct UK tech site. He went on to do the same at Madonion, helping to write the help files for 3DMark and PCMark. After a short stint working at Beyond3D.com, Nick joined Futuremark (MadOnion rebranded) full-time, as editor-in-chief for its gaming and hardware section, YouGamers. After the site shutdown, he became an engineering and computing lecturer for many years, but missed the writing bug. Cue four years at TechSpot.com and over 100 long articles on anything and everything. He freely admits to being far too obsessed with GPUs and open world grindy RPGs, but who isn't these days? 

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